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		<title>By: Donna Marlowe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna Marlowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 23:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;m a little late to this one. I just found this blog a few days ago. I&#039;m not even sure if people still read/respond to the older stuff. But
I suppose I&#039;ll find out.

As with everyone else here, I don&#039;t know all the details of the story. It is interesting that the woman didn&#039;t wear her veil on the initial interview though. I definitely believe people have the right to witness to their faith. But why couldn&#039;t she just wear a veil that covered her hair with her face showing? Or she could have worn a Muslim symbol on a necklace as we Catholics do with crucifixes/medals, etc. That would be just as much of a witness as a veil with just the eyes showing.

I do feel that there are genuine concerns with terrorism around the world. It&#039;s not just a perception. As one poster stated, if a woman wears a veil with just the eyes showing, anyone could impersonate her and sneak into the classroom unnoticed. This could put the children&#039;s lives at risk, whether they be British children or kids of any ethnic minority.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;m a little late to this one. I just found this blog a few days ago. I&#8217;m not even sure if people still read/respond to the older stuff. But<br />
I suppose I&#8217;ll find out.</p>
<p>As with everyone else here, I don&#8217;t know all the details of the story. It is interesting that the woman didn&#8217;t wear her veil on the initial interview though. I definitely believe people have the right to witness to their faith. But why couldn&#8217;t she just wear a veil that covered her hair with her face showing? Or she could have worn a Muslim symbol on a necklace as we Catholics do with crucifixes/medals, etc. That would be just as much of a witness as a veil with just the eyes showing.</p>
<p>I do feel that there are genuine concerns with terrorism around the world. It&#8217;s not just a perception. As one poster stated, if a woman wears a veil with just the eyes showing, anyone could impersonate her and sneak into the classroom unnoticed. This could put the children&#8217;s lives at risk, whether they be British children or kids of any ethnic minority.</p>
<p>donna</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/10/20/school-teacher-suspended-for-wearing-a-veil/#comment-334</link>
		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Inspector Sands ... thanks for the additional information. It&#039;s like assembling a jigsaw puzzle. It&#039;s tough to know if you are getting the full story when you read/see/listen to the news. Where does one go for the full scoop and nothing but the scoop? How does one trust a news source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Inspector Sands &#8230; thanks for the additional information. It&#8217;s like assembling a jigsaw puzzle. It&#8217;s tough to know if you are getting the full story when you read/see/listen to the news. Where does one go for the full scoop and nothing but the scoop? How does one trust a news source?</p>
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		<title>By: Inspector Sands</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/10/20/school-teacher-suspended-for-wearing-a-veil/#comment-333</link>
		<dc:creator>Inspector Sands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings from the UK. This story has been very poorly reported around the world as well as in the UK. The lady concerned was not a teacher, she was a teaching assistant responsible for ethnic minorities. It is also interesting to note that she did not wear her veil when attending interview for the post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings from the UK. This story has been very poorly reported around the world as well as in the UK. The lady concerned was not a teacher, she was a teaching assistant responsible for ethnic minorities. It is also interesting to note that she did not wear her veil when attending interview for the post.</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/10/20/school-teacher-suspended-for-wearing-a-veil/#comment-332</link>
		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 22:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many levels and nuances to this story than one simple WSJ article can contain. Any situation that deals with religious freedom (whether in truth or sensationally) is a lightning bolt issue. And when it gets filtered through the media (which strives to provide the sound bites that we ourselves demand of our media now), the facts can sometimes get so distilled that only the charge of the lightning bolt remains, out of context, and open to interpretation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many levels and nuances to this story than one simple WSJ article can contain. Any situation that deals with religious freedom (whether in truth or sensationally) is a lightning bolt issue. And when it gets filtered through the media (which strives to provide the sound bites that we ourselves demand of our media now), the facts can sometimes get so distilled that only the charge of the lightning bolt remains, out of context, and open to interpretation.</p>
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		<title>By: Catholic Convert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catholic Convert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 18:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s just me and my paranoia right now because of the violence in schools and stuff, but it would be very easy for someone to pose as this teacher and then cause trouble in the school... with identifiable faces, this is far less likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just me and my paranoia right now because of the violence in schools and stuff, but it would be very easy for someone to pose as this teacher and then cause trouble in the school&#8230; with identifiable faces, this is far less likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I agree totally with the decision of the school.  This woman did not wear her niqab to the interview which got her the job - and she was told that there was no problem with her veiling outside the classroom - ie in the corridors or staffroom.  I question why a religion would require a person to cover their face before children.  Would it be acceptable for the teacher if the whole class dressed as she did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that I agree totally with the decision of the school.  This woman did not wear her niqab to the interview which got her the job &#8211; and she was told that there was no problem with her veiling outside the classroom &#8211; ie in the corridors or staffroom.  I question why a religion would require a person to cover their face before children.  Would it be acceptable for the teacher if the whole class dressed as she did?</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Barbara. Not having the children understand what she&#039;s teaching would definitely be a problem. In a position like teaching, care for the children and their learning process must be a priority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Barbara. Not having the children understand what she&#8217;s teaching would definitely be a problem. In a position like teaching, care for the children and their learning process must be a priority.</p>
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		<title>By: BARBARA</title>
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		<dc:creator>BARBARA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I understood it, the teachers veil, covered her mouth. The children had difficulty understanding her, her speesh being muffled.

Certainly understandable to ask her either to get another position or remove the &#039;mouth covering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I understood it, the teachers veil, covered her mouth. The children had difficulty understanding her, her speesh being muffled.</p>
<p>Certainly understandable to ask her either to get another position or remove the &#8216;mouth covering.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me as though most of society in engaged  in  this elaborate dance around acting in an explicitly discriminating way, until we glance the other way...

I agree with the orientation issue. I have a number of homosexual friends and it is amazing that people act towards them with this, &quot;I&#039;ll tolerate your presence as long as you do not explicitly confess your sexuality&quot;. Take about red tape in human relationships!

Oh, and by the way, he wears a tench coat! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me as though most of society in engaged  in  this elaborate dance around acting in an explicitly discriminating way, until we glance the other way&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with the orientation issue. I have a number of homosexual friends and it is amazing that people act towards them with this, &#8220;I&#8217;ll tolerate your presence as long as you do not explicitly confess your sexuality&#8221;. Take about red tape in human relationships!</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, he wears a tench coat! <img src='http://anunslife.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/10/20/school-teacher-suspended-for-wearing-a-veil/#comment-326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm...on the one hand I know how it is with religious belief:  so long as it doesn&#039;t conflict, coincide, or otherwise put out someone else, it&#039;s fine.  For instance a composer&#039;s concert one year was scheduled for the feast of the Immaculate Conception, one never commuted in my diocese.  I didn&#039;t show up, and while it didn&#039;t impact my grade, it was known that it wasn&#039;t a Good Thing To Do to miss that concert.  (Legally they would&#039;ve been in hot water, since accomodation must be given for religious observances.)  For the record, my chair understood, but he wasn&#039;t in charge of the concert.  (I didn&#039;t have a piece at it.)

On the other, I&#039;ve witnessed and been the target of some pretty nasty barbs because of religion in a so-called &quot;tolerant&quot; society, and I know I&#039;ve been guilty of the same to other denominations, mostly ones who try to convert me while I&#039;m eating lunch.  Like you, the article raises a bunch of big questions I don&#039;t have answers for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm&#8230;on the one hand I know how it is with religious belief:  so long as it doesn&#8217;t conflict, coincide, or otherwise put out someone else, it&#8217;s fine.  For instance a composer&#8217;s concert one year was scheduled for the feast of the Immaculate Conception, one never commuted in my diocese.  I didn&#8217;t show up, and while it didn&#8217;t impact my grade, it was known that it wasn&#8217;t a Good Thing To Do to miss that concert.  (Legally they would&#8217;ve been in hot water, since accomodation must be given for religious observances.)  For the record, my chair understood, but he wasn&#8217;t in charge of the concert.  (I didn&#8217;t have a piece at it.)</p>
<p>On the other, I&#8217;ve witnessed and been the target of some pretty nasty barbs because of religion in a so-called &#8220;tolerant&#8221; society, and I know I&#8217;ve been guilty of the same to other denominations, mostly ones who try to convert me while I&#8217;m eating lunch.  Like you, the article raises a bunch of big questions I don&#8217;t have answers for.</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 12:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent observations, Brittany. I particularly liked your comment about being &quot;in a culture which views accountability as being &#039;visibility&#039; both literal and figurative.&quot;

I think about this in connection with other issues like gun violence at schools. How many kids are singled out for being &quot;different&quot; because they have piercings or blue hair or trench coats? Again, a visibility issue.

I also think of the &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; policies and again there&#039;s that visibility thing. Such policies purport to be &#039;tolerant&#039; of people&#039;s sexual orientation as long as it is not made public/visible.

I will have to think more on this visibility thing because I think it also has to do with Holly&#039;s comment about this issue being &quot;a cultural habit at the root of small and vast evil.&quot;

More comments on this issue? Please write.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent observations, Brittany. I particularly liked your comment about being &#8220;in a culture which views accountability as being &#8216;visibility&#8217; both literal and figurative.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think about this in connection with other issues like gun violence at schools. How many kids are singled out for being &#8220;different&#8221; because they have piercings or blue hair or trench coats? Again, a visibility issue.</p>
<p>I also think of the &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; policies and again there&#8217;s that visibility thing. Such policies purport to be &#8216;tolerant&#8217; of people&#8217;s sexual orientation as long as it is not made public/visible.</p>
<p>I will have to think more on this visibility thing because I think it also has to do with Holly&#8217;s comment about this issue being &#8220;a cultural habit at the root of small and vast evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>More comments on this issue? Please write.</p>
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		<title>By: Brittany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brittany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 03:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think she was being singled out as a way of controling public sentiment and keeping the thought of terrorism in everyone&#039;s mind. She wears a niqab:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niqab

Which conceals everything but her eyes. I think that it is her religious right to cover herself if she wishes, but in a culture which views accountability as being &quot;visibility&quot; both literal and figurative, she did become an excellent figurehead for the &quot;war on terror and oppression&quot;.

Some would probably think she is oppressed, but amazingly, most Muslim women wear the veil because they like it; they feel it saves them from being used by men for their appearance.

I do not agree with those women who refuse to remove their niqab for their ID cards and such, but in every day life, I think it makes for a good teachable object and a way of broadening student&#039;s horizons and teaching them about tolerance and understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think she was being singled out as a way of controling public sentiment and keeping the thought of terrorism in everyone&#8217;s mind. She wears a niqab:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niqab" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niqab</a></p>
<p>Which conceals everything but her eyes. I think that it is her religious right to cover herself if she wishes, but in a culture which views accountability as being &#8220;visibility&#8221; both literal and figurative, she did become an excellent figurehead for the &#8220;war on terror and oppression&#8221;.</p>
<p>Some would probably think she is oppressed, but amazingly, most Muslim women wear the veil because they like it; they feel it saves them from being used by men for their appearance.</p>
<p>I do not agree with those women who refuse to remove their niqab for their ID cards and such, but in every day life, I think it makes for a good teachable object and a way of broadening student&#8217;s horizons and teaching them about tolerance and understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve selected an appropriate story and metaphor to illustrate a cultural habit at the root of small and vast evil. An excellent posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve selected an appropriate story and metaphor to illustrate a cultural habit at the root of small and vast evil. An excellent posting.</p>
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