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	<title>Comments on: TIME magazine article on nuns, veils, and blogs</title>
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		<title>By: Peter mancini</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-496</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter mancini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 21:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just before dying, my father received the last rites twice. The chaplain at the hospital in Montreal, used to wear jeans and street clothes.....just to fit in.

My brother who is not religious nor cares about habits, told me that he had seen &quot;some guy&quot; making signs over my dying father. I asked my brother if the person was a priest. My brother replied that the man was not a priest as he was not dressed like one. I concluded that my father had not received the sacraments.

I called a priest, (one who looks and behaves like one)to give my father the last rites. That made me feel better and I am sure my father felt better as well upon seeing a priest administering to him.

It was only after a while, that I found out that my father had received the last rites from the priest in jeans when a patient addressed this man in jeans as Father. I then asked him if he had given my dad the last rites and he confirmed it.

Guess where I stand as to whether priests and nuns should be recognizeable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just before dying, my father received the last rites twice. The chaplain at the hospital in Montreal, used to wear jeans and street clothes&#8230;..just to fit in.</p>
<p>My brother who is not religious nor cares about habits, told me that he had seen &#8220;some guy&#8221; making signs over my dying father. I asked my brother if the person was a priest. My brother replied that the man was not a priest as he was not dressed like one. I concluded that my father had not received the sacraments.</p>
<p>I called a priest, (one who looks and behaves like one)to give my father the last rites. That made me feel better and I am sure my father felt better as well upon seeing a priest administering to him.</p>
<p>It was only after a while, that I found out that my father had received the last rites from the priest in jeans when a patient addressed this man in jeans as Father. I then asked him if he had given my dad the last rites and he confirmed it.</p>
<p>Guess where I stand as to whether priests and nuns should be recognizeable?</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, Hans. You are right ... the modern view on habits is quite mixed. Check out my post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://nuns2day.wordpress.com/2006/12/20/habits-revisted/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Habits Revisited&lt;/a&gt; for my continuing thoughts on this subject. Sister Julie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, Hans. You are right &#8230; the modern view on habits is quite mixed. Check out my post on <a href="http://nuns2day.wordpress.com/2006/12/20/habits-revisted/" rel="nofollow">Habits Revisited</a> for my continuing thoughts on this subject. Sister Julie</p>
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		<title>By: Hans Jaegerstatter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hans Jaegerstatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have enjoyed reading the various comments here. I for one, as a layman, believe that religious should wear habits. I do not mean secular clothing with a little cross pinned to the lapel. Rather, something identifiable (however modified) with the religious garb that has gone before.

The modern view on habits is mixed. I spent years with the Benedictines years ago, once wore my habit to Mass at my home parish church when visiting, and was told by a priest that &quot;This just isn&#039;t done!&quot; (male religious wearing habits on the street)

Have seen nuns in secular dress with tiny veils perched on bouffant hairdo&#039;s (odd, considering that veils are worn to cover the hair) and many other habit-related oddities over the years. Interestingly, nuns who wear traditional habits (in my experience) seem to have no problem interacting with those layfolk whom they serve and work with. And yet many orders dumped the habit because it &quot;interfered&quot; with this interaction. The habit makes a statement, serves as a visible &quot;witness&quot;, unifies communities in a tangible way, and attracts people to it.

I remember priests back in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s, removing their collars when speaking to youth groups and saying things like, &quot;Don&#039;t call me Father Bill, call me Bill&quot;. We liked friendly priests (and nuns) of course, but didn&#039;t want them AS friends, in a chummy, &quot;equal&quot; sort of way. We wanted - needed - to have the option to relate to them AS priests and nuns. Habits, in some way, can facilitate this. They define, demarcate, and provide a sense of continuity in a Church that has gone through so much change, good and bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have enjoyed reading the various comments here. I for one, as a layman, believe that religious should wear habits. I do not mean secular clothing with a little cross pinned to the lapel. Rather, something identifiable (however modified) with the religious garb that has gone before.</p>
<p>The modern view on habits is mixed. I spent years with the Benedictines years ago, once wore my habit to Mass at my home parish church when visiting, and was told by a priest that &#8220;This just isn&#8217;t done!&#8221; (male religious wearing habits on the street)</p>
<p>Have seen nuns in secular dress with tiny veils perched on bouffant hairdo&#8217;s (odd, considering that veils are worn to cover the hair) and many other habit-related oddities over the years. Interestingly, nuns who wear traditional habits (in my experience) seem to have no problem interacting with those layfolk whom they serve and work with. And yet many orders dumped the habit because it &#8220;interfered&#8221; with this interaction. The habit makes a statement, serves as a visible &#8220;witness&#8221;, unifies communities in a tangible way, and attracts people to it.</p>
<p>I remember priests back in the 60&#8217;s and 70&#8217;s, removing their collars when speaking to youth groups and saying things like, &#8220;Don&#8217;t call me Father Bill, call me Bill&#8221;. We liked friendly priests (and nuns) of course, but didn&#8217;t want them AS friends, in a chummy, &#8220;equal&#8221; sort of way. We wanted &#8211; needed &#8211; to have the option to relate to them AS priests and nuns. Habits, in some way, can facilitate this. They define, demarcate, and provide a sense of continuity in a Church that has gone through so much change, good and bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like others who have commented here and elsewhere on your blog, Julie, I am pleased for those communities which are happily receiving multiple women into their communities.  And since the entire formation process takes upwards of seven or more years, there is much time to learn and grow as an individual while continuing to discern the &quot;fit&quot; of that call to that community.

I know of a number of male communities which have had numerous new members enter in recent years... many of whom discerned that the way of life was not as they imagined it would be and soon left or were asked to leave.  Most religious communities in the US in the 40s, 50s and early 60s experienced an historically unprecedented increase in numbers.  Many build those large structures to house the influx only to find themselves years later wondering what to do with the oversize structures when the numbers &quot;settled down.&quot;

It will be an interesting time we have in heaven (God willing) when we are finally able to see clearly what we only see darkly here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like others who have commented here and elsewhere on your blog, Julie, I am pleased for those communities which are happily receiving multiple women into their communities.  And since the entire formation process takes upwards of seven or more years, there is much time to learn and grow as an individual while continuing to discern the &#8220;fit&#8221; of that call to that community.</p>
<p>I know of a number of male communities which have had numerous new members enter in recent years&#8230; many of whom discerned that the way of life was not as they imagined it would be and soon left or were asked to leave.  Most religious communities in the US in the 40s, 50s and early 60s experienced an historically unprecedented increase in numbers.  Many build those large structures to house the influx only to find themselves years later wondering what to do with the oversize structures when the numbers &#8220;settled down.&#8221;</p>
<p>It will be an interesting time we have in heaven (God willing) when we are finally able to see clearly what we only see darkly here.</p>
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		<title>By: lily</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-494</link>
		<dc:creator>lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a very young women (in my teens) discerning the religious life, wondering  around the internet I have noticed a trend in the following communities of women religious:
Sisters of Life
Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist
Nashville Dominicans
PCPA&#039;s
Servents of the Lord and the Virgin of Maltra
Carmelite Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Los Angeles (nurses)

They are all growing, some of them bursting at the seams and being forced to build larger houses or expand, and they all wear habits. Even if it is just pure coincidence, it struck me. While orders that dont have the habit are slowly dwindling in numbers ( I have not seen a non habited order that is GROWING) these orders, with their habits and latin, litergy of the hours and adoration, manage to attract and keep young women. (check the web sites, they are full of young, well-educated women)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a very young women (in my teens) discerning the religious life, wondering  around the internet I have noticed a trend in the following communities of women religious:<br />
Sisters of Life<br />
Sisters of Mary, Mother of the Eucharist<br />
Nashville Dominicans<br />
PCPA&#8217;s<br />
Servents of the Lord and the Virgin of Maltra<br />
Carmelite Sisters of the Sacred Heart of Los Angeles (nurses)</p>
<p>They are all growing, some of them bursting at the seams and being forced to build larger houses or expand, and they all wear habits. Even if it is just pure coincidence, it struck me. While orders that dont have the habit are slowly dwindling in numbers ( I have not seen a non habited order that is GROWING) these orders, with their habits and latin, litergy of the hours and adoration, manage to attract and keep young women. (check the web sites, they are full of young, well-educated women)</p>
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		<title>By: Babu</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Babu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time&#039;s article led me here. Looking forward to reading more about a Nun&#039;s life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time&#8217;s article led me here. Looking forward to reading more about a Nun&#8217;s life.</p>
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		<title>By: What makes being a nun unique? &#171; A Nun&#8217;s Life</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>What makes being a nun unique? &#171; A Nun&#8217;s Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In a comment on &#8220;TIME magazine article on nuns, veils, and blogs&#8220;, Jenn asks the question of what makes being a nun a unique call. She writes: &#8220;I think our call to be a Christian means we shouldn’t be sleeping around and we should be living simply (we should live simply so others in our world can have something). Those aren’t the special call of the nun. That is the call for all Christians.&#8221; That is absolutely true. Religious are not the only ones called to this. It is a way of life for all who live the Gospel. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In a comment on &#8220;TIME magazine article on nuns, veils, and blogs&#8220;, Jenn asks the question of what makes being a nun a unique call. She writes: &#8220;I think our call to be a Christian means we shouldn’t be sleeping around and we should be living simply (we should live simply so others in our world can have something). Those aren’t the special call of the nun. That is the call for all Christians.&#8221; That is absolutely true. Religious are not the only ones called to this. It is a way of life for all who live the Gospel. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-491</link>
		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mary Margaret, thanks for pointing out the Vatican&#039;s document on religious life. It&#039;s good for us to keep that in mind. However, one of the central documents on religious life which was promulgated via an ecumenical council is Perfectae Caritas &quot;Decree on the Adaptation and Renewal of Religious Life&quot; (Pope Paul VI, 1965) ...
http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19651028_perfectae-caritatis_en.html.

In this document, religious are called to take a religious habit: &quot;The religious habit, an outward mark of consecration to God, should be simple and modest, poor and at the same becoming. In addition it must meet the requirements of health and be suited to the circumstances of time and place and to the needs of the ministry involved. The habits of both men and women religious which do not conform to these norms must be changed.&quot; (a. 17) All religious congregations today adhere to this, as well as to the codes in Canon Law. How we define our habits (and we all have habits) is included in our Rule of life which is approved by the Vatican. So to suggest that not wearing a traditional habit is not living authentic religious life is to contradict what the Vatican itself has approved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Margaret, thanks for pointing out the Vatican&#8217;s document on religious life. It&#8217;s good for us to keep that in mind. However, one of the central documents on religious life which was promulgated via an ecumenical council is Perfectae Caritas &#8220;Decree on the Adaptation and Renewal of Religious Life&#8221; (Pope Paul VI, 1965) &#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19651028_perfectae-caritatis_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19651028_perfectae-caritatis_en.html</a>.</p>
<p>In this document, religious are called to take a religious habit: &#8220;The religious habit, an outward mark of consecration to God, should be simple and modest, poor and at the same becoming. In addition it must meet the requirements of health and be suited to the circumstances of time and place and to the needs of the ministry involved. The habits of both men and women religious which do not conform to these norms must be changed.&#8221; (a. 17) All religious congregations today adhere to this, as well as to the codes in Canon Law. How we define our habits (and we all have habits) is included in our Rule of life which is approved by the Vatican. So to suggest that not wearing a traditional habit is not living authentic religious life is to contradict what the Vatican itself has approved.</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colt, thank you for your comment ... I welcome comments from everyone. Each of us has a slightly different perspective and we learn from one another. SJV</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colt, thank you for your comment &#8230; I welcome comments from everyone. Each of us has a slightly different perspective and we learn from one another. SJV</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thoughts.  I&#039;m glad you were included in the Time article.

I don&#039;t lean one way or another of wearing a veil or not.  I do think it is a visible sign of God; but I also think it sets people apart as the comment of people looking at the sister in the article funny shows.  The habit made sense a long time ago historically... maybe that would be a good blog article!  Today the habit might not make sense for our current time.

I think our call to be a Christian means we shouldn&#039;t be sleeping around and we should be living simply (we should live simply so others in our world can have something).  Those aren&#039;t the special call of the nun.  That is the call for all Christians.

I question what makes being a sister or a nun a unique call.

Everything a sister can do, a lay person can do that I am aware of.  I do question what makes it a unique call in comparison to marriage being a unique call or single life being a unique call.  Many sisters I know in apostolic communities especially tend to be living in apartments by themselves.  I am trying to see if I can find enough of a sustaining community outside of religious life.  I&#039;m not sure finding it inside of religious life is realistic with diminishing numbers, few young people who will be left soon, the distances sisters live from each other so they can do ministry, and sisters desires to live in apartments to name a few.

I wonder if Vatican II is really calling lay people to take a role in the church and these distinctions be gotten away from.

Is it more realistic to try to establish communities in our church and put our energy there?

I&#039;m not sure.  I struggle with religious life verses &quot;lay&quot; living outside an order (I put lay in quotes because I realize sisters are lay but I wanted to distinguish).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thoughts.  I&#8217;m glad you were included in the Time article.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t lean one way or another of wearing a veil or not.  I do think it is a visible sign of God; but I also think it sets people apart as the comment of people looking at the sister in the article funny shows.  The habit made sense a long time ago historically&#8230; maybe that would be a good blog article!  Today the habit might not make sense for our current time.</p>
<p>I think our call to be a Christian means we shouldn&#8217;t be sleeping around and we should be living simply (we should live simply so others in our world can have something).  Those aren&#8217;t the special call of the nun.  That is the call for all Christians.</p>
<p>I question what makes being a sister or a nun a unique call.</p>
<p>Everything a sister can do, a lay person can do that I am aware of.  I do question what makes it a unique call in comparison to marriage being a unique call or single life being a unique call.  Many sisters I know in apostolic communities especially tend to be living in apartments by themselves.  I am trying to see if I can find enough of a sustaining community outside of religious life.  I&#8217;m not sure finding it inside of religious life is realistic with diminishing numbers, few young people who will be left soon, the distances sisters live from each other so they can do ministry, and sisters desires to live in apartments to name a few.</p>
<p>I wonder if Vatican II is really calling lay people to take a role in the church and these distinctions be gotten away from.</p>
<p>Is it more realistic to try to establish communities in our church and put our energy there?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure.  I struggle with religious life verses &#8220;lay&#8221; living outside an order (I put lay in quotes because I realize sisters are lay but I wanted to distinguish).</p>
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		<title>By: Colt</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Colt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 05:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a believer, so I feel out of place leaving a reply to your blog, but I felt compelled to do so. I came across the TIME article just as Michelle did, by accident. This article and this blog have given me an interesting insight to the life of a nun. Until now, the only information about nuns has come from The Sound of Music and Sister Act. I feel like your message will be better and more accurately spread through new technology. I support all beliefs, but have not yet found one for myself. I thank you for what you do, all of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a believer, so I feel out of place leaving a reply to your blog, but I felt compelled to do so. I came across the TIME article just as Michelle did, by accident. This article and this blog have given me an interesting insight to the life of a nun. Until now, the only information about nuns has come from The Sound of Music and Sister Act. I feel like your message will be better and more accurately spread through new technology. I support all beliefs, but have not yet found one for myself. I thank you for what you do, all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 01:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t anyone heard of the document, &quot;Essential Elements of the Religious Life&quot;?  It simply restates what has been the immemorial tradition in the Church regarding what is essential for religious life.  It defines authentic religious life.  &quot;They wear a religious garb that distinguishes them as consecrated persons&quot;  The habit is an essential element of religious life. That has been the practice of the Church since the beginning.  Read the Rule of Benedict.   There are other elements which are essential- communtiy prayer, living in community, to name a couple.  I have looked into other communities, and have encountered, especially amongst the larger communities like the SSNDs, none or very few of the essential elements of religious life- sisters in nice lay clothes, living in apartments and town houses, or small group communities on their college campuses while their convent on the same campus is practically empty.  I think the reason the traditional orders get vocations is because they live the authentic religious life- God does not call someone to something false- He only calls women to the Truth.  In His Providence, the Orders not following the Tradition of the Church and her prescription for true religious life will wither and die, as has been clearly manifested since Vatican II and the General Chapters&#039; effects since.  The Congregations truer to real religious life will continue to grow and flourish.  I am working on my Masters at a college in Maryland run by the SSNDs, and I go to my classrooms and just see a nail sticking out of the walls of the classrooms where the crucifixes used to be, (don&#039;t want to offend anyone with Christ), and I go to the cafeteria and around campus and see fliers for a Safe Zone on campus one night a week with two interlocked feminine symbols, and I see the elderly short haired women in suburban housewives clothes shuffle to their small communities and pass by their digs with the TV on, and cater to a lay president because no one was left in their Order to take the helm, and I see little or no visible religious symbols in their apartments.  I take a class with a Grey(ing) Nun of the Sacred Heart who looks like a truck driver, and none of the Sisters I meet there seem particularly joyful or in love with the Lord.  I visit the Chapel several times a day and Our Lord is alone in the tabernacle- I have yet to run into one Sister there visiting Him, but I often see them watching TV.  On the weekends I visit the local Nashville Dominicans and Little Sisters of the Poor for a little sanity and to strengthen my sense of vocation to be a Bride of Christ, and not a mistress of the World.  At least there I find Christ, as well as youth, smiles, and love.  They are not infected with individualism, and follow the Church&#039;s definition of religious life, not their own.  Other girls might feel attracted to some of these places, but I am not sure if the Lord is calling them there.
&quot;By their fruits ye shall know them.&quot;

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccscrlife/documents/rc_con_ccscrlife_doc_31051983_magisterium-on-religious-life_en.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t anyone heard of the document, &#8220;Essential Elements of the Religious Life&#8221;?  It simply restates what has been the immemorial tradition in the Church regarding what is essential for religious life.  It defines authentic religious life.  &#8220;They wear a religious garb that distinguishes them as consecrated persons&#8221;  The habit is an essential element of religious life. That has been the practice of the Church since the beginning.  Read the Rule of Benedict.   There are other elements which are essential- communtiy prayer, living in community, to name a couple.  I have looked into other communities, and have encountered, especially amongst the larger communities like the SSNDs, none or very few of the essential elements of religious life- sisters in nice lay clothes, living in apartments and town houses, or small group communities on their college campuses while their convent on the same campus is practically empty.  I think the reason the traditional orders get vocations is because they live the authentic religious life- God does not call someone to something false- He only calls women to the Truth.  In His Providence, the Orders not following the Tradition of the Church and her prescription for true religious life will wither and die, as has been clearly manifested since Vatican II and the General Chapters&#8217; effects since.  The Congregations truer to real religious life will continue to grow and flourish.  I am working on my Masters at a college in Maryland run by the SSNDs, and I go to my classrooms and just see a nail sticking out of the walls of the classrooms where the crucifixes used to be, (don&#8217;t want to offend anyone with Christ), and I go to the cafeteria and around campus and see fliers for a Safe Zone on campus one night a week with two interlocked feminine symbols, and I see the elderly short haired women in suburban housewives clothes shuffle to their small communities and pass by their digs with the TV on, and cater to a lay president because no one was left in their Order to take the helm, and I see little or no visible religious symbols in their apartments.  I take a class with a Grey(ing) Nun of the Sacred Heart who looks like a truck driver, and none of the Sisters I meet there seem particularly joyful or in love with the Lord.  I visit the Chapel several times a day and Our Lord is alone in the tabernacle- I have yet to run into one Sister there visiting Him, but I often see them watching TV.  On the weekends I visit the local Nashville Dominicans and Little Sisters of the Poor for a little sanity and to strengthen my sense of vocation to be a Bride of Christ, and not a mistress of the World.  At least there I find Christ, as well as youth, smiles, and love.  They are not infected with individualism, and follow the Church&#8217;s definition of religious life, not their own.  Other girls might feel attracted to some of these places, but I am not sure if the Lord is calling them there.<br />
&#8220;By their fruits ye shall know them.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: susan rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>susan rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie,

Nice quote!  And good post here.  I&#039;ve commented on the veil focus on my blog as well.

Peace,
Susan Rose, CSJP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie,</p>
<p>Nice quote!  And good post here.  I&#8217;ve commented on the veil focus on my blog as well.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Susan Rose, CSJP</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Michelle. Glad you have found your home.</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 17:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article in the Time magazine led me to your blog.  I liked the article because it reminded me of the Austrian nuns who ran our elementary school in Guyana, South America.  I had such fond memories of Sister Koska who taught ballet.  She&#039;d being wearing her veil and habit with barefeet.  BTW, I&#039;ve returned to the church after over 20 years.  My kiddies are in class for baptism and first communion.  It&#039;s like coming home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article in the Time magazine led me to your blog.  I liked the article because it reminded me of the Austrian nuns who ran our elementary school in Guyana, South America.  I had such fond memories of Sister Koska who taught ballet.  She&#8217;d being wearing her veil and habit with barefeet.  BTW, I&#8217;ve returned to the church after over 20 years.  My kiddies are in class for baptism and first communion.  It&#8217;s like coming home.</p>
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		<title>By: nuns2day</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2006/11/14/time-magazine-article-on-nuns-veils-and-blogs/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>nuns2day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 11:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, CC. God uses all of our attractions to help us along the way in responding to his call --- including what the habit is (nuns that do not wear a traditional habit are still technically wearing a habit, just defined differently), where the community is located, how many people are members, etc. Young women have many choices in terms of how they want to respond to their call to religious life. The diversity of religious communities is a great gift to the church and world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, CC. God uses all of our attractions to help us along the way in responding to his call &#8212; including what the habit is (nuns that do not wear a traditional habit are still technically wearing a habit, just defined differently), where the community is located, how many people are members, etc. Young women have many choices in terms of how they want to respond to their call to religious life. The diversity of religious communities is a great gift to the church and world.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 05:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought their emphasis on the &quot;veil&quot; was a little strange too.  Maybe not entirely wrong, because I have heard from several sources that the majority of young women do for some odd reason have an attraction to communities with the habit, but the way they phrased everything was a little off base.  I don&#039;t know what it is about the habit that draws me in, but I&#039;ve had several people tell me that it&#039;s normal and different people will be attracted to different things according to their vocation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought their emphasis on the &#8220;veil&#8221; was a little strange too.  Maybe not entirely wrong, because I have heard from several sources that the majority of young women do for some odd reason have an attraction to communities with the habit, but the way they phrased everything was a little off base.  I don&#8217;t know what it is about the habit that draws me in, but I&#8217;ve had several people tell me that it&#8217;s normal and different people will be attracted to different things according to their vocation.</p>
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		<title>By: sister joanirene</title>
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		<dc:creator>sister joanirene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Benedictine Scholastic sister and have a blog also. I think the lectio and journaling are good spiritual disciplines and a way also to evangelize and share the faith</description>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 02:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If on the other hand, we cling to God and the particular mission he has for us — with or without veils — then we will be truly radical and faithful to our call as religious.&quot;

And that describes most of the sisters and nuns I know...I know Benedictines who wear full habits, and ones who don&#039;t.  I&#039;d be hard pressed to try to say who&#039;s more &quot;embodied&quot; of their vocation.  I think the line in the Rule of St. Benedict is that monastics wear clothes which are suitable to the climate that don&#039;t discriminate them from the poor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If on the other hand, we cling to God and the particular mission he has for us — with or without veils — then we will be truly radical and faithful to our call as religious.&#8221;</p>
<p>And that describes most of the sisters and nuns I know&#8230;I know Benedictines who wear full habits, and ones who don&#8217;t.  I&#8217;d be hard pressed to try to say who&#8217;s more &#8220;embodied&#8221; of their vocation.  I think the line in the Rule of St. Benedict is that monastics wear clothes which are suitable to the climate that don&#8217;t discriminate them from the poor.</p>
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