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		<title>By: deerose</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1534</link>
		<dc:creator>deerose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheryl:

I am an oblate of St. Benedict. We are to try to recite the LOH on a regular basis - maybe 1- 2x per day. Personally, it&#039;s sometimes difficult for me to get into this, not so much because of the timing, but because I prefer to recite the Hours in community. For me, it&#039;s just not the same saying it alone. As we know, &quot;liturgy&quot;, by its very definition, is communal prayer. So your dilemma is understandable. The mainstay of my daily prayer life is centering prayer. Our Benedictines say the most important thing is that you pray every day.  Although the Hours and lectio are recommended, it&#039;s not mandatory to do it everyday. But you didn&#039;t really ask about the Benedictines, did you? Sorry for the rambling if it&#039;s of no use.

Now here is what might help you. What our sisters suggest when we pose such queries as the one you did above is to just say the daily psalms from the Hours excluding the other parts of the Office such as the hymns, antiphons, etc. It&#039;s shorter and gets to the heart of the matter.

Personally, I&#039;m not a very structured person so I pray at different times per day. I mainly do my centering after lunch (or early evening if I&#039;m at a meeting) and my Hours, spiritual reading, music meditation, etc. in the evening.

Good luck!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheryl:</p>
<p>I am an oblate of St. Benedict. We are to try to recite the LOH on a regular basis &#8211; maybe 1- 2x per day. Personally, it&#8217;s sometimes difficult for me to get into this, not so much because of the timing, but because I prefer to recite the Hours in community. For me, it&#8217;s just not the same saying it alone. As we know, &#8220;liturgy&#8221;, by its very definition, is communal prayer. So your dilemma is understandable. The mainstay of my daily prayer life is centering prayer. Our Benedictines say the most important thing is that you pray every day.  Although the Hours and lectio are recommended, it&#8217;s not mandatory to do it everyday. But you didn&#8217;t really ask about the Benedictines, did you? Sorry for the rambling if it&#8217;s of no use.</p>
<p>Now here is what might help you. What our sisters suggest when we pose such queries as the one you did above is to just say the daily psalms from the Hours excluding the other parts of the Office such as the hymns, antiphons, etc. It&#8217;s shorter and gets to the heart of the matter.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m not a very structured person so I pray at different times per day. I mainly do my centering after lunch (or early evening if I&#8217;m at a meeting) and my Hours, spiritual reading, music meditation, etc. in the evening.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>dee</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question to the lay who pray the breviary. As lay persons do not have a fixed time table like cloister nuns have, how do you keep the commitment of praying at least the major hours? I am a university student and lectures vary from one day to an other. For sometime I lived with cloister nuns - and since I decided that it was not my call, I always wished to still pray the divine liturgy. But I find it very difficult...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question to the lay who pray the breviary. As lay persons do not have a fixed time table like cloister nuns have, how do you keep the commitment of praying at least the major hours? I am a university student and lectures vary from one day to an other. For sometime I lived with cloister nuns &#8211; and since I decided that it was not my call, I always wished to still pray the divine liturgy. But I find it very difficult&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Waking Up &#171; A Nun&#8217;s Life</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1532</link>
		<dc:creator>Waking Up &#171; A Nun&#8217;s Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] times of the day. Monks and nuns have honored these hours for hundreds of years by praying the Liturgy of the Hours. I honor this time with prayer and coffee (coffee being a libation of sorts, I suppose  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Macrina</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1531</link>
		<dc:creator>Macrina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 13:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing on the liturgy of the hours, Julie!

This may be of limited interest as its all in Dutch, but our community&#039;s liturgy can be heard live on the internet (seven times a day) at

http://www.katholieknederland.nl/mediapastoraat/getijden/live/index.html

There may also be English speaking monasteries that do this but I don&#039;t know of any for sure.

Also, on the question of the office of readings / Matins / Vigils: you are correct that the reform of the breviary unlinked this from any particular time of day (part of the motivation being that it should rather be done when most of the community were able to be present - and perhaps also awake!). But the monastic communities have generally continued to see it as linked with the night (as part of the whole spirituality of praying at night, keeping vigil and watching for Christ). The Cistercians (at least the Strict observance / Trappists, I&#039;m not so sure about the Common Observance) celebrate it very early in the morning (usually beginning around 3 or 4 a.m.). The Carthusians (and also some other Orders, as noted in the post on enclosed nuns) have it in the middle of the night and then go back to bed. The Benedictines vary and may do either of the above or may also celebrate it not quite so early in the morning but still before Lauds, or else the evening before (around 8 or 9 pm) as a vigil office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing on the liturgy of the hours, Julie!</p>
<p>This may be of limited interest as its all in Dutch, but our community&#8217;s liturgy can be heard live on the internet (seven times a day) at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.katholieknederland.nl/mediapastoraat/getijden/live/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.katholieknederland.nl/mediapastoraat/getijden/live/index.html</a></p>
<p>There may also be English speaking monasteries that do this but I don&#8217;t know of any for sure.</p>
<p>Also, on the question of the office of readings / Matins / Vigils: you are correct that the reform of the breviary unlinked this from any particular time of day (part of the motivation being that it should rather be done when most of the community were able to be present &#8211; and perhaps also awake!). But the monastic communities have generally continued to see it as linked with the night (as part of the whole spirituality of praying at night, keeping vigil and watching for Christ). The Cistercians (at least the Strict observance / Trappists, I&#8217;m not so sure about the Common Observance) celebrate it very early in the morning (usually beginning around 3 or 4 a.m.). The Carthusians (and also some other Orders, as noted in the post on enclosed nuns) have it in the middle of the night and then go back to bed. The Benedictines vary and may do either of the above or may also celebrate it not quite so early in the morning but still before Lauds, or else the evening before (around 8 or 9 pm) as a vigil office.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1530</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 23:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love praying the Liturgy of the Hours especially among community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love praying the Liturgy of the Hours especially among community.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1521</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 01:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all the extra links, friends! Here&#039;s another one from a new buddy of mine who did a podcast on the Liturgy of the Hours ...
You can find it by going to iTunes or through the following link: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.basilian.org/News_and_Info/In_the_Media/macrina_en.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.basilian.org/News_and_Info/In_the_Media/macrina_en.php&lt;/a&gt;
 ... enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all the extra links, friends! Here&#8217;s another one from a new buddy of mine who did a podcast on the Liturgy of the Hours &#8230;<br />
You can find it by going to iTunes or through the following link: <a href="http://www.basilian.org/News_and_Info/In_the_Media/macrina_en.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.basilian.org/News_and_Info/In_the_Media/macrina_en.php</a><br />
 &#8230; enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah, osb</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1522</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah, osb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 19:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check our our community&#039;s Liturgy of the Hours podcast site:
www.monasterypodcast.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check our our community&#8217;s Liturgy of the Hours podcast site:<br />
<a href="http://www.monasterypodcast.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.monasterypodcast.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1524</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 14:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morning and Evening Prayer of LOH may be heard at
the Praystation Portable site on SQPN.com.

Also, a wonderful book about one person&#039;s experience with the Liturgy of the Hours is Phyllis Tickle&#039;s The Shaping of a Life. She is Anglican, but has great knowledge of the Roman liturgy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning and Evening Prayer of LOH may be heard at<br />
the Praystation Portable site on SQPN.com.</p>
<p>Also, a wonderful book about one person&#8217;s experience with the Liturgy of the Hours is Phyllis Tickle&#8217;s The Shaping of a Life. She is Anglican, but has great knowledge of the Roman liturgy.</p>
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		<title>By: RedheadedCyclone</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1523</link>
		<dc:creator>RedheadedCyclone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 04:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wanted to add that our word &#039;hours&#039; comes from these prayers (rather than the other way around). For hundreds of years, this was the only way to tell time. Time was kept by which prayer it was closest to. I wonder what it would be like to live in increments of around 2 to 4 hours. I would want to take penicillin with me though.

The Islamic Salah (ritual prayers) are 5 times a day and they are (very basically) from Dawn until sunrise; noon to just after noon; mid-day (before sunset); sunset to dusk; before midnight. Quite similar to your tradition. Muhammad is supposed to have said that if someone prays 5 times a day, it is like washing 5 times a day... you will never become dirty.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to add that our word &#8216;hours&#8217; comes from these prayers (rather than the other way around). For hundreds of years, this was the only way to tell time. Time was kept by which prayer it was closest to. I wonder what it would be like to live in increments of around 2 to 4 hours. I would want to take penicillin with me though.</p>
<p>The Islamic Salah (ritual prayers) are 5 times a day and they are (very basically) from Dawn until sunrise; noon to just after noon; mid-day (before sunset); sunset to dusk; before midnight. Quite similar to your tradition. Muhammad is supposed to have said that if someone prays 5 times a day, it is like washing 5 times a day&#8230; you will never become dirty.<br />
 <img src='http://anunslife.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most third order rules with which I am familiar generally ask members to say morning and evening prayer from the Office and recommend night prayer.  Deacons also say these hours of the Office.  For anyone who would like to give the Office a try without investing in a breviary there are two web sites that post the readings for the hours.  Universalis, a British site, has the office every day, but does not yet post all the antiphons.  The psalms and readings are given.  Here is its web site:  http://www.universalis.com

An American site, thus using the New American Bible and the Grail psalms (as opposed to the Jerusalem Bible translation of the British Universalis) is http://www.ebreviary.com

Fridays,Sundays and major feast days are included on ebreviary.com, but not all the weekdays.  Night prayers for every night are posted.  This on-line breviary does include the antiphons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most third order rules with which I am familiar generally ask members to say morning and evening prayer from the Office and recommend night prayer.  Deacons also say these hours of the Office.  For anyone who would like to give the Office a try without investing in a breviary there are two web sites that post the readings for the hours.  Universalis, a British site, has the office every day, but does not yet post all the antiphons.  The psalms and readings are given.  Here is its web site:  <a href="http://www.universalis.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.universalis.com</a></p>
<p>An American site, thus using the New American Bible and the Grail psalms (as opposed to the Jerusalem Bible translation of the British Universalis) is <a href="http://www.ebreviary.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ebreviary.com</a></p>
<p>Fridays,Sundays and major feast days are included on ebreviary.com, but not all the weekdays.  Night prayers for every night are posted.  This on-line breviary does include the antiphons.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1527</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found another web page with a nice, clear explanation of the Liturgy of the Hours -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.carr.org/~meripper/faith/lithours.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;click here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found another web page with a nice, clear explanation of the Liturgy of the Hours &#8212; <a href="http://www.carr.org/~meripper/faith/lithours.htm" rel="nofollow">click here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1526</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Tom ... I did a bit more research into Matins, which is now called the Office of Readings &lt;em&gt;(Officium Lectionis)&lt;/em&gt; and discovered that it has had a history of being in the morning and in the evening. When the name was switched from Matins (which refers to the morning) to Office of Readings in the 1970 revision, the new name was unlinked from any particular time of day (see Wikipedia). The Office of Readings can be said any time of the day, though traditionally, it is prayed in the morning.

I hadn&#039;t thought about its roots in Judaism, but of course! I&#039;m not as familiar with Islam, but have always been impressed with how they honor the hours of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tom &#8230; I did a bit more research into Matins, which is now called the Office of Readings <em>(Officium Lectionis)</em> and discovered that it has had a history of being in the morning and in the evening. When the name was switched from Matins (which refers to the morning) to Office of Readings in the 1970 revision, the new name was unlinked from any particular time of day (see Wikipedia). The Office of Readings can be said any time of the day, though traditionally, it is prayed in the morning.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t thought about its roots in Judaism, but of course! I&#8217;m not as familiar with Islam, but have always been impressed with how they honor the hours of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Br. Dominic-Michael OHS</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1528</link>
		<dc:creator>Br. Dominic-Michael OHS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 02:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Seven times a day will I praise Thee / because of Thy righteous judgements&quot;

At Mattins bound, at Prime reviled,
Condemned to death at Terce,
Nailed to the Cross at Sext, at None
His blessed side they pierce:
They take Him down at Vesper-tide,
in grave at Compline lay,
Who thenceforth bids His Church observe
her sevenfold Hours alway.

(from the preface of my breviary)

I have a handy little pocket size breviary with the Lesser Hours that I carry with me. It is simplified, and uses Psalm 119 divided up to be repeated several times in a week, except for Compline which uses the traditional Psalms for that Office. It is only a few dollars, go to www.anglicancatholic.ca and click on the Convent Society link, they&#039;ll send a catalog free. Shipping is super fast.  The breviary was compiled by our Diocesan Bishop Peter Wilkinson OSG and Fr. Shane Janzen of the ACCC. It suits a working person who has to say the Lesser Hours on the fly so to speak, grabbing a quick ten minutes wherever they can.  It also contains miscellaneous prayers for clergy to use in emergencies and if hearing confessions somewhere away from usual.
As Anglos use the BCP for Matins and Evensong the book only has Prime, Terce, Sext, None, Compline, (and a Midnight Hour if you happen to suffer from insomnia :) ) Plus there are Office Hymns, and hymns to Our Lady, and the Propers of the Seasons. A good resource for the price. 164 pages in a spiral binding a half inch thick, 4&quot; x 6&quot;.

Praying the Hours gives a whole new perspective to time itself...

Br. Dominic-Michael OHS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Seven times a day will I praise Thee / because of Thy righteous judgements&#8221;</p>
<p>At Mattins bound, at Prime reviled,<br />
Condemned to death at Terce,<br />
Nailed to the Cross at Sext, at None<br />
His blessed side they pierce:<br />
They take Him down at Vesper-tide,<br />
in grave at Compline lay,<br />
Who thenceforth bids His Church observe<br />
her sevenfold Hours alway.</p>
<p>(from the preface of my breviary)</p>
<p>I have a handy little pocket size breviary with the Lesser Hours that I carry with me. It is simplified, and uses Psalm 119 divided up to be repeated several times in a week, except for Compline which uses the traditional Psalms for that Office. It is only a few dollars, go to <a href="http://www.anglicancatholic.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.anglicancatholic.ca</a> and click on the Convent Society link, they&#8217;ll send a catalog free. Shipping is super fast.  The breviary was compiled by our Diocesan Bishop Peter Wilkinson OSG and Fr. Shane Janzen of the ACCC. It suits a working person who has to say the Lesser Hours on the fly so to speak, grabbing a quick ten minutes wherever they can.  It also contains miscellaneous prayers for clergy to use in emergencies and if hearing confessions somewhere away from usual.<br />
As Anglos use the BCP for Matins and Evensong the book only has Prime, Terce, Sext, None, Compline, (and a Midnight Hour if you happen to suffer from insomnia <img src='http://anunslife.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) Plus there are Office Hymns, and hymns to Our Lady, and the Propers of the Seasons. A good resource for the price. 164 pages in a spiral binding a half inch thick, 4&#8243; x 6&#8243;.</p>
<p>Praying the Hours gives a whole new perspective to time itself&#8230;</p>
<p>Br. Dominic-Michael OHS</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Mc Laughlin</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2007/05/17/praying-the-liturgy-of-the-hours/#comment-1529</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Mc Laughlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juli,

Thanks for writting on the liturgy of the hours. One little correction. Matins is the first hour. It comes before dawn and morning prayer.

You might look into its roots in Judaism and the times for prayer in the temple. Also, though few Catholic outside monasteries still pay attention to the hours for prayer, most Muslims do. They pray at work, at school, wherever they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juli,</p>
<p>Thanks for writting on the liturgy of the hours. One little correction. Matins is the first hour. It comes before dawn and morning prayer.</p>
<p>You might look into its roots in Judaism and the times for prayer in the temple. Also, though few Catholic outside monasteries still pay attention to the hours for prayer, most Muslims do. They pray at work, at school, wherever they are.</p>
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