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		<title>By: Regina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s excellent, Jackie! I am so glad I asked. Sr. Julie, I will go check out that forum discussion, too.

Thanks!
Regina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That&#8217;s excellent, Jackie! I am so glad I asked. Sr. Julie, I will go check out that forum discussion, too.</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
Regina</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy to respond!

Here are my thoughts, Regina:

Personally, I don’t think believing that Heaven is not a physical place has any real affect on belief in the Assumption of Mary’s soul. Let’s say you believe Heaven is just a place where souls go – then Mary’s soul was just assumed into that place. I think the hard part that we have to wrestle with is that the doctrine states she was assumed “body and soul” into heaven. We can get over the soul part. But what about the body? If Heaven is not a physical place, where did the body go?

Here, I believe we have a couple of choices:
a. Mary’s body never really left Earth. It was perhaps misplaced or lost or hidden. (Taking this option means you don’t entirely believe in the Assumption.)
b. Mary’s body was taken from physical, material form and transformed into something new and different during the Assumption. 

I think those who believe in the Assumption can cling to the latter option, since it jibes with everything else we’re taught about our bodies after death. Take this verse 1 Corinthians 15:39-49, for example:

&quot;All flesh is not the same: Human beings have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor. 

&quot;So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. 

&quot;If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: &quot;The first Adam became a living being&quot;; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.&quot; 

This is the same verse people use to justify cremation. The human, physical body is no longer needed and is transformed into something entirely  new. So no matter what you do to it – burn it, bury it, perhaps assume it? – it will still be changed into something else. 

Thus I think one who believes in the Assumption can think it likely that Mary’s body and soul were snatched up into Heaven (the non-material realm where souls go after death). And Mary’s body could have been taken up with her soul, just transformed from an earthly body to a heavenly body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to respond!</p>
<p>Here are my thoughts, Regina:</p>
<p>Personally, I don’t think believing that Heaven is not a physical place has any real affect on belief in the Assumption of Mary’s soul. Let’s say you believe Heaven is just a place where souls go – then Mary’s soul was just assumed into that place. I think the hard part that we have to wrestle with is that the doctrine states she was assumed “body and soul” into heaven. We can get over the soul part. But what about the body? If Heaven is not a physical place, where did the body go?</p>
<p>Here, I believe we have a couple of choices:<br />
a. Mary’s body never really left Earth. It was perhaps misplaced or lost or hidden. (Taking this option means you don’t entirely believe in the Assumption.)<br />
b. Mary’s body was taken from physical, material form and transformed into something new and different during the Assumption. </p>
<p>I think those who believe in the Assumption can cling to the latter option, since it jibes with everything else we’re taught about our bodies after death. Take this verse 1 Corinthians 15:39-49, for example:</p>
<p>&#8220;All flesh is not the same: Human beings have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor. </p>
<p>&#8220;So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. </p>
<p>&#8220;If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: &#8220;The first Adam became a living being&#8221;; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.&#8221; </p>
<p>This is the same verse people use to justify cremation. The human, physical body is no longer needed and is transformed into something entirely  new. So no matter what you do to it – burn it, bury it, perhaps assume it? – it will still be changed into something else. </p>
<p>Thus I think one who believes in the Assumption can think it likely that Mary’s body and soul were snatched up into Heaven (the non-material realm where souls go after death). And Mary’s body could have been taken up with her soul, just transformed from an earthly body to a heavenly body.</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7265</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Regina, Thanks for writing. There&#039;s a good &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26044&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussion of Mary&#039;s Assumption into heaven on The Catholic Community Forum&lt;/a&gt; that you might find interesting. I&#039;ll also see if the &quot;guest blogger&quot; would like to comment since she&#039;s done some research in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Regina, Thanks for writing. There&#8217;s a good <a href="http://www.catholicforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26044" rel="nofollow">discussion of Mary&#8217;s Assumption into heaven on The Catholic Community Forum</a> that you might find interesting. I&#8217;ll also see if the &#8220;guest blogger&#8221; would like to comment since she&#8217;s done some research in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Sister Julie, CSSF</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7191</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Sister Julie, CSSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The church I attended had very few people and NO MUSIC (Neither did the next Mass!)  So sad!  This feast is huge in Italy, esp in Dad&#039;s home town, it&#039;s the patronal feast for my province, and it&#039;s a family feast, too (My sister awoke from her coma on Aug. 15, 1965 after brain cancer surgery that she was not supposed to survive.  In fact, she claims that &quot;Blessed Mother woke me up.&quot;)  I&#039;m used to liturgically partying, I mean, really celebrating this day.

I&#039;ll never forget how our pastor explained the difference between Ascension and Assumption to us.  He lined up a coule of stools and climbed up them on his own power--that was the Ascension.  Then he bent over from that perch (Yes, all the adults gasped!) and pretended to pull someone up--That was the Assumption.  The kids got, he didn&#039;t break a hip, and we adults all let out our collective breath.  Yeah, I&#039;ll never forget the difference between the two feasts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The church I attended had very few people and NO MUSIC (Neither did the next Mass!)  So sad!  This feast is huge in Italy, esp in Dad&#8217;s home town, it&#8217;s the patronal feast for my province, and it&#8217;s a family feast, too (My sister awoke from her coma on Aug. 15, 1965 after brain cancer surgery that she was not supposed to survive.  In fact, she claims that &#8220;Blessed Mother woke me up.&#8221;)  I&#8217;m used to liturgically partying, I mean, really celebrating this day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll never forget how our pastor explained the difference between Ascension and Assumption to us.  He lined up a coule of stools and climbed up them on his own power&#8211;that was the Ascension.  Then he bent over from that perch (Yes, all the adults gasped!) and pretended to pull someone up&#8211;That was the Assumption.  The kids got, he didn&#8217;t break a hip, and we adults all let out our collective breath.  Yeah, I&#8217;ll never forget the difference between the two feasts!</p>
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		<title>By: Regina</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7185</link>
		<dc:creator>Regina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, how do you all feel about Assumption and Ascension, given that most of us no longer conceive of Heaven as a physical place to which Mary and Jesus&#039;s physical bodies could have been physically taken up? Maybe I should post this question on my own blog, but it&#039;s very new and so far no one has commented on anything I&#039;ve written ... and I really want to know what others think about this one.

Regina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how do you all feel about Assumption and Ascension, given that most of us no longer conceive of Heaven as a physical place to which Mary and Jesus&#8217;s physical bodies could have been physically taken up? Maybe I should post this question on my own blog, but it&#8217;s very new and so far no one has commented on anything I&#8217;ve written &#8230; and I really want to know what others think about this one.</p>
<p>Regina</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We got to sing some really nice Marian hymns during the mass.  I love singing Hail Holy Queen.   I didn&#039;t see too many in church; the dream cruise is going on right now and it seems like everyone is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We got to sing some really nice Marian hymns during the mass.  I love singing Hail Holy Queen.   I didn&#8217;t see too many in church; the dream cruise is going on right now and it seems like everyone is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Assumption! &#171; Young Adult Catholics</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7137</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Assumption! &#171; Young Adult Catholics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fully body is assumed into heaven.  Sr. Julie over at A Nun&#8217;s Life gives a really nice description of this day in Catholic life. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fully body is assumed into heaven.  Sr. Julie over at A Nun&#8217;s Life gives a really nice description of this day in Catholic life. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Assumption! &#171; Young Adult Catholics</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7136</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Assumption! &#171; Young Adult Catholics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fully body is assumed into heaven.  Sr. Julie over at A Nun&#8217;s Life gives a really nice description of this day in Catholic life. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fully body is assumed into heaven.  Sr. Julie over at A Nun&#8217;s Life gives a really nice description of this day in Catholic life. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7127</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Feast Day to all!</description>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2008/08/14/celebrate-the-assumption-of-mary/#comment-7124</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 11:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie did a beautiful job writing this post. She is my first guest blogger and I&#039;m hoping she&#039;ll be back again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie did a beautiful job writing this post. She is my first guest blogger and I&#8217;m hoping she&#8217;ll be back again!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great informational post, thanks Sister Julie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great informational post, thanks Sister Julie!</p>
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