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		<title>By: Sister Laurel, Erem Dio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sister Laurel, Erem Dio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 19:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to note I am not sure I have received emails from people who mentioned contacting me. If you have not heard back from me yet, please email again. Thanks!

Sister Laurel, erem dio
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to note I am not sure I have received emails from people who mentioned contacting me. If you have not heard back from me yet, please email again. Thanks!</p>
<p>Sister Laurel, erem dio<br />
Stillsong Hermitage<br />
email: SRLAUREL &#8212; (at) &#8212; aol &#8212; (dot) &#8212; com</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister, I always forward your daily Nun&#039;s Life to my list for monastic subjects, practices, vocations, info, news at Yahoo
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monasterion.

I often wished to write you but cannot find an email to write you on the Nun&#039;s Life or here at your blog/site.
Suggestions, point 4:  anything on prayer, meditation, contemplation, spiritual practices &amp; life and vocations are always welcome as interested to the 450 members of my list.

Myself a priest and hermit for many years.

john</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister, I always forward your daily Nun&#8217;s Life to my list for monastic subjects, practices, vocations, info, news at Yahoo<br />
<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monasterion" rel="nofollow">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/monasterion</a>.</p>
<p>I often wished to write you but cannot find an email to write you on the Nun&#8217;s Life or here at your blog/site.<br />
Suggestions, point 4:  anything on prayer, meditation, contemplation, spiritual practices &amp; life and vocations are always welcome as interested to the 450 members of my list.</p>
<p>Myself a priest and hermit for many years.</p>
<p>john</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-39077</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean, I will work on this--and it will be a challenge to keep it to seven!  However, I&#039;ll start with 2:

Jo Ann K. McNamara, Sisters in Arms: Catholic Nuns Through Two Millennia (Harvard University Press, 1996).

Building Sisterhood: A Feminist History of the Sisters, Servants of the Immaculate Heart of Mary of Monroe, Michigan (Syracuse University Press, 1997).  I mention this with the caveat that I was one of the authors--and it is &quot;our&quot; Julie&#039;s community (and mine--I&#039;m an associate). But it is a remarkable piece of work in that it was done cooperatively by a collective of women in the community who tried (and, for the most part, succeeded) to explore understudied and misunderstood aspects of the history of religious life. MOST importantly, it is a work in which women speak for themselves. It is hardly a work of glorification, but it IS a work of real insight (don&#039;t even bother with my essay--the rest are what make it special!

Maybe, when Julie gets back from Jubilee, we can ask her to start a thread  on this subject....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, I will work on this&#8211;and it will be a challenge to keep it to seven!  However, I&#8217;ll start with 2:</p>
<p>Jo Ann K. McNamara, Sisters in Arms: Catholic Nuns Through Two Millennia (Harvard University Press, 1996).</p>
<p>Building Sisterhood: A Feminist History of the Sisters, Servants of the Immaculate Heart of Mary of Monroe, Michigan (Syracuse University Press, 1997).  I mention this with the caveat that I was one of the authors&#8211;and it is &#8220;our&#8221; Julie&#8217;s community (and mine&#8211;I&#8217;m an associate). But it is a remarkable piece of work in that it was done cooperatively by a collective of women in the community who tried (and, for the most part, succeeded) to explore understudied and misunderstood aspects of the history of religious life. MOST importantly, it is a work in which women speak for themselves. It is hardly a work of glorification, but it IS a work of real insight (don&#8217;t even bother with my essay&#8211;the rest are what make it special!</p>
<p>Maybe, when Julie gets back from Jubilee, we can ask her to start a thread  on this subject&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-39076</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 04:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy -  You are right that the author is a woman (the only Macy I ever knew was a man and I leapt to that). Thank you for the correction. I would love to see the seven-book list YOU would propose for a general audience?  Would you consider putting one together for us here and then post it to The New Yorker, too? Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy &#8211;  You are right that the author is a woman (the only Macy I ever knew was a man and I leapt to that). Thank you for the correction. I would love to see the seven-book list YOU would propose for a general audience?  Would you consider putting one together for us here and then post it to The New Yorker, too? Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-39073</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. (and I promise this will be my last message tonight ).  I read the Harline book as a member of a historical book prize committee, and did not think it was very good--obviously, my opinion, but one that is informed by reading literally thousands of books on sisters&#039;  history. [This is not overstatement--which may identify me as weird, I know .] I would say the same for Fialka&#039;s--which, admittedly, does not claim to be scholarly, but popular.  It&#039;s been awhile since I&#039;ve read either, so I&#039;m not prepared without revisiting (which I&#039;m not eager to do, in either case) to say more, but there are so many better books out there....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. (and I promise this will be my last message tonight ).  I read the Harline book as a member of a historical book prize committee, and did not think it was very good&#8211;obviously, my opinion, but one that is informed by reading literally thousands of books on sisters&#8217;  history. [This is not overstatement--which may identify me as weird, I know .] I would say the same for Fialka&#8217;s&#8211;which, admittedly, does not claim to be scholarly, but popular.  It&#8217;s been awhile since I&#8217;ve read either, so I&#8217;m not prepared without revisiting (which I&#8217;m not eager to do, in either case) to say more, but there are so many better books out there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-39071</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean, I guess I am frustrated that men are viewed here as the experts on women&#039;s lives, to a great extent, especially when so many women  have written on the subject. It also frustrated me that the author (who I think was female) thought the Rudnick piece was &quot;humorous&quot; instead of offensive....  As a women&#039;s historian, and one who specializes in the history of sisters, I would so much prefer to have their voices heard.... Yes, there are some historical voices, but no American women&#039;s voices.  Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, I guess I am frustrated that men are viewed here as the experts on women&#8217;s lives, to a great extent, especially when so many women  have written on the subject. It also frustrated me that the author (who I think was female) thought the Rudnick piece was &#8220;humorous&#8221; instead of offensive&#8230;.  As a women&#8217;s historian, and one who specializes in the history of sisters, I would so much prefer to have their voices heard&#8230;. Yes, there are some historical voices, but no American women&#8217;s voices.  Why?</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-39067</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peggy - 

What struck you as ignorant about the list of books this man proposed?

It seemed like a bit of an olive branch to me.   The writer was also very clear that it was *his* specific list, which is kind of cool: a man  - who did not identify as a cleric, religious or theology scholar  - has a list a favorite &quot;nun books&quot; that runs to SEVEN books?  I thought it looked like a pretty good list for starting any &quot;newbie&quot; off in the world of nuns around the world and in history.  Mother Teresa and Sister Wendy - I would say that is a fine taste of both &quot;ends of the spectrum&quot; of modern nun-life; Teresa of Avila is timeless as a thinker, as a mystic, as a foundress, as a feminist, as a woman of Jesus; and the others are undeniable biggies, too. I thought he did really well in choosing classics, in widely accepted and embraced nun stories. 

I can imagine that the poem is likely to cause some upset because of the sexual imagery but ecstatic and romantic language about religious life, particularly by and about the mystics, is very much a part of our own tradition.  It also made sense to me that he refers to Rudnick&#039;s piece as humor: that&#039;s what it was, even if in the eyes of many it failed as tasteful humor. 

That&#039;s my take on it and would like to understand what seemed to problematic in your eyes. Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peggy &#8211; </p>
<p>What struck you as ignorant about the list of books this man proposed?</p>
<p>It seemed like a bit of an olive branch to me.   The writer was also very clear that it was *his* specific list, which is kind of cool: a man  &#8211; who did not identify as a cleric, religious or theology scholar  &#8211; has a list a favorite &#8220;nun books&#8221; that runs to SEVEN books?  I thought it looked like a pretty good list for starting any &#8220;newbie&#8221; off in the world of nuns around the world and in history.  Mother Teresa and Sister Wendy &#8211; I would say that is a fine taste of both &#8220;ends of the spectrum&#8221; of modern nun-life; Teresa of Avila is timeless as a thinker, as a mystic, as a foundress, as a feminist, as a woman of Jesus; and the others are undeniable biggies, too. I thought he did really well in choosing classics, in widely accepted and embraced nun stories. </p>
<p>I can imagine that the poem is likely to cause some upset because of the sexual imagery but ecstatic and romantic language about religious life, particularly by and about the mystics, is very much a part of our own tradition.  It also made sense to me that he refers to Rudnick&#8217;s piece as humor: that&#8217;s what it was, even if in the eyes of many it failed as tasteful humor. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s my take on it and would like to understand what seemed to problematic in your eyes. Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New Yorker strikes again!  On the site now is a new article &quot;Know your Nuns: Seven Essential Books,&quot; which is appalling in its ignorance, and which cites Rudnick&#039;s piece as &quot;amusing&quot; (of course).  My comment is the first one to appear in response (signed &quot;sistory&quot;)--I urge others from here to go there, as well, and perhaps someone would suggest that readers consult this very website (&quot;A Nun&#039;s Life&quot;).  The New Yorker piece is at: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2009/07/know-your-nuns-seven-essential-books.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Yorker strikes again!  On the site now is a new article &#8220;Know your Nuns: Seven Essential Books,&#8221; which is appalling in its ignorance, and which cites Rudnick&#8217;s piece as &#8220;amusing&#8221; (of course).  My comment is the first one to appear in response (signed &#8220;sistory&#8221;)&#8211;I urge others from here to go there, as well, and perhaps someone would suggest that readers consult this very website (&#8220;A Nun&#8217;s Life&#8221;).  The New Yorker piece is at: <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2009/07/know-your-nuns-seven-essential-books.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2009/07/know-your-nuns-seven-essential-books.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38848</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Annette - I, too, believe writing is a gift from God and you so clearly received it in abundance, Annette.  I love your Hosea story, and this passage you wrote today: the cleanness of your writing  expresses well the love and faith the nuns helped you discover within yourself.  It sounds like your husband loves your poems. Sounds like you chose well:  nothing better for a poet than to have a fan in the house (or, even better, on the other side of the bed)!  I am so glad to know there are poets here, Annette. I am happier when I know you people are in my worlds. Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Annette &#8211; I, too, believe writing is a gift from God and you so clearly received it in abundance, Annette.  I love your Hosea story, and this passage you wrote today: the cleanness of your writing  expresses well the love and faith the nuns helped you discover within yourself.  It sounds like your husband loves your poems. Sounds like you chose well:  nothing better for a poet than to have a fan in the house (or, even better, on the other side of the bed)!  I am so glad to know there are poets here, Annette. I am happier when I know you people are in my worlds. Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Annette R.</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38846</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jean,

I have never published any outside of my high school and hometown newspaper my senior year of high school 1977!
I am not an educated or very formal poet. I write from my heart. I have shared it with friends, family and it came in handy for impressing boyfriends. I&#039;ve written some spiritual ones but not nearly enough. Haven&#039;t written any in a while-inspiration comes and goes but I think once a poet always a poet. Many of the casual people in my life don&#039;t know about this. I guess I&#039;m shy about it. I know I will write again but it usually comes in times of greatest joy or difficult challanges. I can&#039;t ever tell my husband he&#039;s not romantic enough these days without hearing, &quot;How long has it been since you wrote me a poem?&quot;. Writing is a gift from God. You all seem far more educated than I am. I&#039;m glad my Hosea story allowed me to contribute something worthwhile.  The faith to believe God was speaking to me is a gift too. I&#039;m very gtateful for the sisters who instilled that faith in me-my parents aren&#039;t very spiritual. It was the nuns who really formed my faith.

Annette.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jean,</p>
<p>I have never published any outside of my high school and hometown newspaper my senior year of high school 1977!<br />
I am not an educated or very formal poet. I write from my heart. I have shared it with friends, family and it came in handy for impressing boyfriends. I&#8217;ve written some spiritual ones but not nearly enough. Haven&#8217;t written any in a while-inspiration comes and goes but I think once a poet always a poet. Many of the casual people in my life don&#8217;t know about this. I guess I&#8217;m shy about it. I know I will write again but it usually comes in times of greatest joy or difficult challanges. I can&#8217;t ever tell my husband he&#8217;s not romantic enough these days without hearing, &#8220;How long has it been since you wrote me a poem?&#8221;. Writing is a gift from God. You all seem far more educated than I am. I&#8217;m glad my Hosea story allowed me to contribute something worthwhile.  The faith to believe God was speaking to me is a gift too. I&#8217;m very gtateful for the sisters who instilled that faith in me-my parents aren&#8217;t very spiritual. It was the nuns who really formed my faith.</p>
<p>Annette.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38656</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Annette - 

The welcome you received when you returned to Mass is beautiful. Thank you for sharing it. We are blessed indeed. 

Jean

ps Have you published any of your poetry?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annette &#8211; </p>
<p>The welcome you received when you returned to Mass is beautiful. Thank you for sharing it. We are blessed indeed. </p>
<p>Jean</p>
<p>ps Have you published any of your poetry?!</p>
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		<title>By: Annette R.</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38623</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jean-

It does make sense. I think you are expressing a poet&#039;s power to make you share their experience with their words. You do it extremly well-I think you may have poetry inside you. I too have felt that deep connection at Mass or in Reconciliation. The words to certain hymns strike a deep cord as well. I will never forget the Mass where I&#039;d been away for a long time and heard Hosea for the first time. Come back to me don&#039;t be afraid....Long have I waited for your comming home to me and living deeply our new life. It made me really cry -felt like my own personal invitation. It&#039;s my favorite and probably always will be. What a loving kind forgiving God we have. And this blog is a wonderful place to learn from spiritual people who love God and God&#039;s children.

Annette.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jean-</p>
<p>It does make sense. I think you are expressing a poet&#8217;s power to make you share their experience with their words. You do it extremly well-I think you may have poetry inside you. I too have felt that deep connection at Mass or in Reconciliation. The words to certain hymns strike a deep cord as well. I will never forget the Mass where I&#8217;d been away for a long time and heard Hosea for the first time. Come back to me don&#8217;t be afraid&#8230;.Long have I waited for your comming home to me and living deeply our new life. It made me really cry -felt like my own personal invitation. It&#8217;s my favorite and probably always will be. What a loving kind forgiving God we have. And this blog is a wonderful place to learn from spiritual people who love God and God&#8217;s children.</p>
<p>Annette.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Annette - 

In the Penitential Rite, we establish community and interdependence through our shared words, &quot;I confess to Almighty God AND YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS&quot;.   That knocks my socks off:  active, continuous community materializes through and because of our words.  In the Eucharist, &quot;the Word is made flesh&quot; and we are joined intimately to  Jesus both in sacrifice and resurrection.  In the sacrament of reconciliation, our words, the priest&#039;s words knit us together again with God and we are converted again to new life in the Spirit.  

The Liturgy and our sacraments - our shared words - facilitate  experience.  The words of the Liturgy and sacraments *are* experience. 

The very best poetry - to my taste -does not describe a garden. In the very best poetry, my eyes see the flowers and dew; my nose smells the mushroom compost and roses and basil; my fingers feel the feathery greens of the carrots and the sharp points of the artichoke leaves; my ears hear the chatter of the angry squirrel on the roof of the garden shed; my tongue tastes the tang of a raspberry picked too soon; and I ache for the friends who were supposed to gather for a meal but are lost to tragedy. (I made up that stuff. don&#039;t know that poem and can&#039;t write it. I am a fan, not a poet).

In Mass, &quot;the Word is made flesh&quot;.  In poetry, experience is made of words. 

What I love about poetry readings:     the poet,  in reading to us,  takes our hands  and walks with us in the experience made of the poem&#039;s words.   And, in that experience, we are together, we are intimate, if only for the length of the stanza.

What I love about communal prayer, the Liturgy of the Mass, the Penitential Rite, Reconciliation:     in the Word, and especially in the sacrament of the Eucharist, we are made one with God and each other.   

I hope that makes sense.
Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Annette &#8211; </p>
<p>In the Penitential Rite, we establish community and interdependence through our shared words, &#8220;I confess to Almighty God AND YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS&#8221;.   That knocks my socks off:  active, continuous community materializes through and because of our words.  In the Eucharist, &#8220;the Word is made flesh&#8221; and we are joined intimately to  Jesus both in sacrifice and resurrection.  In the sacrament of reconciliation, our words, the priest&#8217;s words knit us together again with God and we are converted again to new life in the Spirit.  </p>
<p>The Liturgy and our sacraments &#8211; our shared words &#8211; facilitate  experience.  The words of the Liturgy and sacraments *are* experience. </p>
<p>The very best poetry &#8211; to my taste -does not describe a garden. In the very best poetry, my eyes see the flowers and dew; my nose smells the mushroom compost and roses and basil; my fingers feel the feathery greens of the carrots and the sharp points of the artichoke leaves; my ears hear the chatter of the angry squirrel on the roof of the garden shed; my tongue tastes the tang of a raspberry picked too soon; and I ache for the friends who were supposed to gather for a meal but are lost to tragedy. (I made up that stuff. don&#8217;t know that poem and can&#8217;t write it. I am a fan, not a poet).</p>
<p>In Mass, &#8220;the Word is made flesh&#8221;.  In poetry, experience is made of words. </p>
<p>What I love about poetry readings:     the poet,  in reading to us,  takes our hands  and walks with us in the experience made of the poem&#8217;s words.   And, in that experience, we are together, we are intimate, if only for the length of the stanza.</p>
<p>What I love about communal prayer, the Liturgy of the Mass, the Penitential Rite, Reconciliation:     in the Word, and especially in the sacrament of the Eucharist, we are made one with God and each other.   </p>
<p>I hope that makes sense.<br />
Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Annette R.</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38518</link>
		<dc:creator>Annette R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t been to any live poetry readings. I do write poetry though and song lyrics often make me cry. Don&#039;t know if I quite understand the catholic connection. I am a cradle catholic as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t been to any live poetry readings. I do write poetry though and song lyrics often make me cry. Don&#8217;t know if I quite understand the catholic connection. I am a cradle catholic as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38432</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh David Ray. Nuns in poetry! I would have thought it almost too much to hope for. 

During the years I was away from the Catholic Church, I fell in love with poetry. Best of all is a reading or a deep bathtub in which I can read the poems aloud to myself (kayak, canoe and &quot;fishing tube&quot; can be substituted for &quot;bathtub&quot;). 

It was not until I began reading scripture aloud to myself in the bathtub (I have an extra Bible for wetreadings) that I realized why I so often cry at poetry readings: I grew up Catholic.
 
That might not make sense to most people, but I think most any poet would understand.

I am going to order your book as soon as I send this.


Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh David Ray. Nuns in poetry! I would have thought it almost too much to hope for. </p>
<p>During the years I was away from the Catholic Church, I fell in love with poetry. Best of all is a reading or a deep bathtub in which I can read the poems aloud to myself (kayak, canoe and &#8220;fishing tube&#8221; can be substituted for &#8220;bathtub&#8221;). </p>
<p>It was not until I began reading scripture aloud to myself in the bathtub (I have an extra Bible for wetreadings) that I realized why I so often cry at poetry readings: I grew up Catholic.</p>
<p>That might not make sense to most people, but I think most any poet would understand.</p>
<p>I am going to order your book as soon as I send this.</p>
<p>Jean</p>
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		<title>By: David Ray</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38363</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who found the reference to Dolores Hart, the nun who gave up Hollywood stardom might find my poem about her interesting--it&#039;s in my book, &quot;When&quot; (available from me or the publisher, Howling Dog Press). The poem is called &quot;A Nun&#039;s Story&quot;, and the reporter who interviews Sister Dolores is stunned because she is probably the first person he ever met who knew that &quot;bliss lay not in the craving, but in the forsaking.&quot; Isabel Allende also wrote:  &quot;The idea of becoming an anonymous nun came to me...&quot;  I suspect that Paul Rudnick was as bewildered by a non-materialistic lifestyle as the reporter who interviewed Dolores Hart after tabloid gossip linked her to Elvis. I always think turning any faith into slapstick is for Yahoos, not Houyhnhnms.


David Ray, Poet, Tucson, AZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who found the reference to Dolores Hart, the nun who gave up Hollywood stardom might find my poem about her interesting&#8211;it&#8217;s in my book, &#8220;When&#8221; (available from me or the publisher, Howling Dog Press). The poem is called &#8220;A Nun&#8217;s Story&#8221;, and the reporter who interviews Sister Dolores is stunned because she is probably the first person he ever met who knew that &#8220;bliss lay not in the craving, but in the forsaking.&#8221; Isabel Allende also wrote:  &#8220;The idea of becoming an anonymous nun came to me&#8230;&#8221;  I suspect that Paul Rudnick was as bewildered by a non-materialistic lifestyle as the reporter who interviewed Dolores Hart after tabloid gossip linked her to Elvis. I always think turning any faith into slapstick is for Yahoos, not Houyhnhnms.</p>
<p>David Ray, Poet, Tucson, AZ</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38250</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura - I didn&#039;t know the New Yorker was in trouble moneywise. I am 
surprised but there it is.  

Most important:  I love, love, love, love your final words. 

&quot;Catholics have been ‘bashed’ for more 2000 years now and we still endure. Jesus could handle it. So can we.&quot; And I would add, only, 
&quot;so will we&quot;. 

Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura &#8211; I didn&#8217;t know the New Yorker was in trouble moneywise. I am<br />
surprised but there it is.  </p>
<p>Most important:  I love, love, love, love your final words. </p>
<p>&#8220;Catholics have been ‘bashed’ for more 2000 years now and we still endure. Jesus could handle it. So can we.&#8221; And I would add, only,<br />
&#8220;so will we&#8221;. </p>
<p>Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38248</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Sister Julie!  I&#039;ve emailed Sister Laurel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Sister Julie!  I&#8217;ve emailed Sister Laurel.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38246</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, meant to say New Yorker, but both publications engage in the ever popular sport of Catholic bashing and both are in dire straights financially.  Personally, I&#039;d say good riddance to either one of them--

Catholics have been &#039;bashed&#039; for more 2000 years now and we still endure.  Jesus could handle it.  So can we.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, meant to say New Yorker, but both publications engage in the ever popular sport of Catholic bashing and both are in dire straights financially.  Personally, I&#8217;d say good riddance to either one of them&#8211;</p>
<p>Catholics have been &#8216;bashed&#8217; for more 2000 years now and we still endure.  Jesus could handle it.  So can we.</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38229</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Laura - 

Just to clarify:  Rudnick&#039;s piece was in The New Yorker magazine, not the NYT (New York Times) newspaper.  

The Times is certainly in trouble with its print version circulation, as you say.  

But I am guessing that the New Yorker is going strong, maybe even stronger than in the past because of the excellent investigative reporters whose work is published first in its pages.  I am thinking especially of Seymour Hirsch (who broke the My Lai story back in 1969 during the American war on Vietnam) and his newsbreaking reports on the American war on Iraq, etc.

I love the Stillsong blog which I found, Sister Julie, on your list of nunblogs.  Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Laura &#8211; </p>
<p>Just to clarify:  Rudnick&#8217;s piece was in The New Yorker magazine, not the NYT (New York Times) newspaper.  </p>
<p>The Times is certainly in trouble with its print version circulation, as you say.  </p>
<p>But I am guessing that the New Yorker is going strong, maybe even stronger than in the past because of the excellent investigative reporters whose work is published first in its pages.  I am thinking especially of Seymour Hirsch (who broke the My Lai story back in 1969 during the American war on Vietnam) and his newsbreaking reports on the American war on Iraq, etc.</p>
<p>I love the Stillsong blog which I found, Sister Julie, on your list of nunblogs.  Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38176</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Laura, are you interested in what the life of a Catholic hermit is like? If so, I highly recommend you check in with Sister Laurel who lives at Stillsong Hermitage, a diocesan hermitage in the Camaldolese Benedictine tradition. She authors the blog &lt;a href=&quot;http://notesfromstillsong.blogspot.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Notes from Stillsong Hermitage&lt;/a&gt;. She would be the best person I know to guide you in terms of hermitages.

What in particular are you looking for regarding contemplative nuns? If you&#039;d like to find communities, check out &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vocation-network.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vision Vocation Network&lt;/a&gt;. They have good resources to help you find communities that &quot;match&quot; you. They also have lots of discernment resources. And click through the &lt;a href=&quot;http://anunslife.org/blogs-by-catholic-nuns/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blogs by Catholic Nuns&lt;/a&gt; listed on this blog. Many are written by contemplative nuns.

Blessings, Laura!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Laura, are you interested in what the life of a Catholic hermit is like? If so, I highly recommend you check in with Sister Laurel who lives at Stillsong Hermitage, a diocesan hermitage in the Camaldolese Benedictine tradition. She authors the blog <a href="http://notesfromstillsong.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Notes from Stillsong Hermitage</a>. She would be the best person I know to guide you in terms of hermitages.</p>
<p>What in particular are you looking for regarding contemplative nuns? If you&#8217;d like to find communities, check out <a href="http://www.vocation-network.org/" rel="nofollow">Vision Vocation Network</a>. They have good resources to help you find communities that &#8220;match&#8221; you. They also have lots of discernment resources. And click through the <a href="http://anunslife.org/blogs-by-catholic-nuns/" rel="nofollow">Blogs by Catholic Nuns</a> listed on this blog. Many are written by contemplative nuns.</p>
<p>Blessings, Laura!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38142</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I live in NYC and am not at all surprised about such an article coming from the NYT--their circulation has been so poor for a few years now, perhaps they&#039;d hope some Catholic Nun bashing might boost readership.  Wrong again--

And speaking of nuns:  can anyone direct me to a list of Catholic Hermitages for nuns here in the U.S.?  I&#039;m interested in learning more about contemplative nuns but I can&#039;t find much on them for nuns though plenty for monks.  Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I live in NYC and am not at all surprised about such an article coming from the NYT&#8211;their circulation has been so poor for a few years now, perhaps they&#8217;d hope some Catholic Nun bashing might boost readership.  Wrong again&#8211;</p>
<p>And speaking of nuns:  can anyone direct me to a list of Catholic Hermitages for nuns here in the U.S.?  I&#8217;m interested in learning more about contemplative nuns but I can&#8217;t find much on them for nuns though plenty for monks.  Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: deerose</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38108</link>
		<dc:creator>deerose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this submission by Sr. Julie (and listening to Sr. Bridget&#039;s  comments), one thing occurred to me. I truly believe that many sisters simply rise above all this mockery and ill will. They know who they are in Christ and are simply not bothered, or at least to any major extent, by all these negative meanderings. They let their lives speak for themselves. That&#039;s beautiful, really. I wish we could all be that evolved. 

... that doesn&#039;t excuse bad behavior on behalf of those perpetrating it, however. I certainly don&#039;t know how to solve the problem of negative nun images out there. I would counter it, however, by saying that  there are also positive images of nuns in the media. Many of us have seen those too. The one linked above is among the many.  

What I would do to better the image of nuns? I truly believe sisters need to get out and mingle a little more socially with more nonCatholics in secular society. Join community choirs, photography classes, volunteer at public libraries or teach a craft at a public school, etc. The more exposure, especially outside of the strictly Catholic venue, the better. I remember hearing that sisters, or one of their organizations, is specifically for communications. Does this group have a publicity department?  

Cheers!

dee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this submission by Sr. Julie (and listening to Sr. Bridget&#8217;s  comments), one thing occurred to me. I truly believe that many sisters simply rise above all this mockery and ill will. They know who they are in Christ and are simply not bothered, or at least to any major extent, by all these negative meanderings. They let their lives speak for themselves. That&#8217;s beautiful, really. I wish we could all be that evolved. </p>
<p>&#8230; that doesn&#8217;t excuse bad behavior on behalf of those perpetrating it, however. I certainly don&#8217;t know how to solve the problem of negative nun images out there. I would counter it, however, by saying that  there are also positive images of nuns in the media. Many of us have seen those too. The one linked above is among the many.  </p>
<p>What I would do to better the image of nuns? I truly believe sisters need to get out and mingle a little more socially with more nonCatholics in secular society. Join community choirs, photography classes, volunteer at public libraries or teach a craft at a public school, etc. The more exposure, especially outside of the strictly Catholic venue, the better. I remember hearing that sisters, or one of their organizations, is specifically for communications. Does this group have a publicity department?  </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<p>dee</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38096</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Julie - Thanks for  sharing this with everyone. I would like to meet this sister (and you)! Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Julie &#8211; Thanks for  sharing this with everyone. I would like to meet this sister (and you)! Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McGrail</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/07/16/rudnick-can-mock-but-he-cannot-win/#comment-38092</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie McGrail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am not a nun or a sister or whatever Mr Rudnick cares to call you all, but instead, an ancient one who grows a bit every day when I read Sr Julie&#039;s blog or the articles about the many nuns who are bringing Christ to prisons, soup kitchens, legislatures near and far.  I rejoice when I hear what Sr Bridgit is saying and doing. So Rudnick needed some filler in a column............       Nuns&#039; life speak so much more eloquently than his lame words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am not a nun or a sister or whatever Mr Rudnick cares to call you all, but instead, an ancient one who grows a bit every day when I read Sr Julie&#8217;s blog or the articles about the many nuns who are bringing Christ to prisons, soup kitchens, legislatures near and far.  I rejoice when I hear what Sr Bridgit is saying and doing. So Rudnick needed some filler in a column&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;       Nuns&#8217; life speak so much more eloquently than his lame words.</p>
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