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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-41104</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good observations, Jean. I too am sick to death of the pitting of CMSWR against LCWR. It has gone on too long and is perpetuated by the media, Catholics, and nuns themselves. It must stop. It is both horrifying and shameful. I agree with you 100% that the Holy Spirit calls people in different ways of life. Religious Life is so diverse and this is a very good thing. To say one particular way is better, or more faithful, or more evolved, or more authentic is to circumscribe the activity of the Holy Spirit. I too am looking forward to the dialog. Sister Maxine and I have a few preliminary questions but want to hear from others too. Your response (as well as similar topics we&#039;ve discussed earlier around this kind of pitting one v. another) has a question in it that I&#039;ll have to tease out and pose to our guests. See you Tuesday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good observations, Jean. I too am sick to death of the pitting of CMSWR against LCWR. It has gone on too long and is perpetuated by the media, Catholics, and nuns themselves. It must stop. It is both horrifying and shameful. I agree with you 100% that the Holy Spirit calls people in different ways of life. Religious Life is so diverse and this is a very good thing. To say one particular way is better, or more faithful, or more evolved, or more authentic is to circumscribe the activity of the Holy Spirit. I too am looking forward to the dialog. Sister Maxine and I have a few preliminary questions but want to hear from others too. Your response (as well as similar topics we&#8217;ve discussed earlier around this kind of pitting one v. another) has a question in it that I&#8217;ll have to tease out and pose to our guests. See you Tuesday!</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-41032</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 02:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Julie - I figured out how to open the podcast to which you provided a link at the bottom of the post above. But where to find the Angelus? I am occasionally a curmudgeon about the internet but this is GREAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Julie &#8211; I figured out how to open the podcast to which you provided a link at the bottom of the post above. But where to find the Angelus? I am occasionally a curmudgeon about the internet but this is GREAT!</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-40980</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Julie - Absolutely count me in! What a smart way of using technology to pray in community, community in every sense: your IHM community no matter where you live..... and the broader community that is the wide, wide world! Tell me how to join in and I will &quot;be&quot; there. Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Julie &#8211; Absolutely count me in! What a smart way of using technology to pray in community, community in every sense: your IHM community no matter where you live&#8230;.. and the broader community that is the wide, wide world! Tell me how to join in and I will &#8220;be&#8221; there. Jean</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-40975</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jean, will respond soon to first part. To second part yes, we just did a live midday prayer (noon for us in Chicago) and are going to try to do this regularly. Are you interested??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jean, will respond soon to first part. To second part yes, we just did a live midday prayer (noon for us in Chicago) and are going to try to do this regularly. Are you interested??</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-40974</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>starting now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>starting now</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Julie - How lovely to read this prayer. Thank you. Are we doing noon prayers here together? Please? Jean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Julie &#8211; How lovely to read this prayer. Thank you. Are we doing noon prayers here together? Please? Jean</p>
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		<title>By: jean</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-40970</link>
		<dc:creator>jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sister Julie - I will be very excited to hear this podcast on the CARA study and will think about whether I have questions, though I am just interested in what they have to say. It has been interesting to read the articles out there and I would like to hear what the survey&#039;s author and Patrice Tuohy have to say, in large part because I anticipate that they will not become involved in the partisan nonsense that has begun to shape a near meta-narrative that pits LCWR (organization and members and supporters) against CMSWR (organization and members and supporters) and vice versa. 

My hope is that they will, instead, speak to the survey and encourage discerners and potential discerners to continue to hear God while  sisters and congregations are encouraged to hear the voices of the surveyed and discern how they want to respond to what this study has to say to them as congregations and as individual sisters.  

I am so tired of the kind of the discussion that results in this kind of response to CARA (in response to NCR&#039;s article on the study):  &quot;That&#039;s a shame. They seem to be joining orders that wear habits. They&#039;re going to undo all the work of Vatican II! Something must be done.&quot; 

Here&#039;s my response to that post:  &quot;What must be done? Who must do it? Why must it be done?  I am discerning with an order that does not wear a preVII habit and am comfortable that I am being called by the Holy Spirit to that order. But why should I - or anyone else - assume that this movement toward the traditional pre-VII habit is not also the work and calling of the Holy Spirit? I perceive such an assessment as spiritual arrogance and it is very troubling to me.  Something has been done, I think. The Holy Spirit called me to an order that does not wear the traditional habit and the Holy Spirit called a bunch of other men and women to orders that do wear that habit&quot;.

I read another particuarly upsetting exchange in which a woman who has the opposite concern (she has very mildly and clearly &quot;owned&quot;  disagreements with the less preVII-traditional and LCWR orders) is being berated online by someone who disagrees with her concernsopinion. That particular personal attack is taking the form of a continued assertion that this woman (unknown to the berater) is refusing a vocation to LCWR orders and, in her fear and cowardice, is thus attacking what she secretly desires.  I am horrified whenever I read this stuff  that judges the &quot;rightness&quot; or &quot;wrongness&quot; of the Holy Spirit&#039;s call to individuals and congregations.

I look forward to the discussion here, Sister Julie, and what I know will be respect for the reality that Religious Life is driven by the Holy Spirit and not by the votes and whims and wrangling-for-poll-numbers of a two-party system of spiritual &quot;Democrats&quot; and spiritual  &quot;Republicans&quot;.

Jean


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sister Julie &#8211; I will be very excited to hear this podcast on the CARA study and will think about whether I have questions, though I am just interested in what they have to say. It has been interesting to read the articles out there and I would like to hear what the survey&#8217;s author and Patrice Tuohy have to say, in large part because I anticipate that they will not become involved in the partisan nonsense that has begun to shape a near meta-narrative that pits LCWR (organization and members and supporters) against CMSWR (organization and members and supporters) and vice versa. </p>
<p>My hope is that they will, instead, speak to the survey and encourage discerners and potential discerners to continue to hear God while  sisters and congregations are encouraged to hear the voices of the surveyed and discern how they want to respond to what this study has to say to them as congregations and as individual sisters.  </p>
<p>I am so tired of the kind of the discussion that results in this kind of response to CARA (in response to NCR&#8217;s article on the study):  &#8220;That&#8217;s a shame. They seem to be joining orders that wear habits. They&#8217;re going to undo all the work of Vatican II! Something must be done.&#8221; </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my response to that post:  &#8220;What must be done? Who must do it? Why must it be done?  I am discerning with an order that does not wear a preVII habit and am comfortable that I am being called by the Holy Spirit to that order. But why should I &#8211; or anyone else &#8211; assume that this movement toward the traditional pre-VII habit is not also the work and calling of the Holy Spirit? I perceive such an assessment as spiritual arrogance and it is very troubling to me.  Something has been done, I think. The Holy Spirit called me to an order that does not wear the traditional habit and the Holy Spirit called a bunch of other men and women to orders that do wear that habit&#8221;.</p>
<p>I read another particuarly upsetting exchange in which a woman who has the opposite concern (she has very mildly and clearly &#8220;owned&#8221;  disagreements with the less preVII-traditional and LCWR orders) is being berated online by someone who disagrees with her concernsopinion. That particular personal attack is taking the form of a continued assertion that this woman (unknown to the berater) is refusing a vocation to LCWR orders and, in her fear and cowardice, is thus attacking what she secretly desires.  I am horrified whenever I read this stuff  that judges the &#8220;rightness&#8221; or &#8220;wrongness&#8221; of the Holy Spirit&#8217;s call to individuals and congregations.</p>
<p>I look forward to the discussion here, Sister Julie, and what I know will be respect for the reality that Religious Life is driven by the Holy Spirit and not by the votes and whims and wrangling-for-poll-numbers of a two-party system of spiritual &#8220;Democrats&#8221; and spiritual  &#8220;Republicans&#8221;.</p>
<p>Jean</p>
<p>I look</p>
<p>Thanks for arranging this dialogue for us, Sister Julie</p>
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		<title>By: Sister Julie</title>
		<link>http://anunslife.org/2009/08/14/a-nuns-life-live-podcasts/#comment-40969</link>
		<dc:creator>Sister Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; The Angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; And she conceived of the Holy Spirit.

&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus.

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

&lt;strong&gt;Leader: &lt;/strong&gt;Behold the handmaid of the Lord.

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; Be it done unto me according to thy word.

&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; Hail Mary, full of grace …

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; Holy Mary, Mother of God ...

&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; And the Word was made Flesh.

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; And dwelt among us.

&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; Hail Mary, full of grace …

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; Holy Mary, Mother of God ...

&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.

&lt;strong&gt;Leader:&lt;/strong&gt; Let us pray: 

&lt;strong&gt;All:&lt;/strong&gt; Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts; that, we to whom the Incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the message of an Angel, may by His Passion and Cross, be brought to the glory of His Resurrection. Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Leader:</strong> The Angel of the Lord declared unto Mary.</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> And she conceived of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p><strong>Leader:</strong> Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of they womb, Jesus.</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.</p>
<p><strong>Leader: </strong>Behold the handmaid of the Lord.</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> Be it done unto me according to thy word.</p>
<p><strong>Leader:</strong> Hail Mary, full of grace …</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> Holy Mary, Mother of God &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Leader:</strong> And the Word was made Flesh.</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> And dwelt among us.</p>
<p><strong>Leader:</strong> Hail Mary, full of grace …</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> Holy Mary, Mother of God &#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Leader:</strong> Pray for us, O Holy Mother of God.</p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> That we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.</p>
<p><strong>Leader:</strong> Let us pray: </p>
<p><strong>All:</strong> Pour forth, we beseech Thee, O Lord, Thy grace into our hearts; that, we to whom the Incarnation of Christ, Thy Son, was made known by the message of an Angel, may by His Passion and Cross, be brought to the glory of His Resurrection. Through the same Christ our Lord. Amen.</p>
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